Dota 2 lc jungle 6 867 5309
Jungle Commander
The Jungle Commander
DotA2 Hero: Legion Commander
Purchase Order
Starting Items
First Purchase
Second Purchase
Early/M > Armlet of Mordiggian
General Final Build
Late Game Options
Hero Skills
Overwhelming Odds
| 10 | 12 | 13 | 14 |
Press the Attack
Moment of Courage
Talents
Jungle Commander
| 1. | Jungling Basics w/ LC |
| 2. | You’ve hit level 6, what now? |
| 3. | Blink? but what about Sha. Dota 2 lc jungle 6 867 5309 |
| 4. | I’m not doing enough damage! |
| 5. | Now what do I do? |
| 6. | Late Game Options |
| 7. | In closing. |
Jungling Basics w/ LC
I’ll skill the BS and tell you what’s important.
Legion Commander can Jungle fairly quickly, by that I mean by
6 min you’ll be lvl 6 w/ Phase Boots + starting items – any tangos eaten.
Basically, you’re going to eat the small/pull camp twice. Once, RIGHT, when it spawn @ 30 seconds, and again at 1 min when it spawns again. LC w/ just 1 level of MoC can clear the small camp under 30 seconds about 9/10 times. That will give you level two and from there you can generally jungle medium camps, dire side is much easier for this.
When you build Phase Boots, buy the Blades of Attack first. The reason being is the extra damage works with MoC for more lifesteal, which means you can jungle without dying. Once you have Phase Boots, your lifesteal will start giving you decent chunks of HP back, especially once MoC is lvl 3-4.
After that, it’s pretty much run up to camps and right-click. You’ll be able to heal off jungle creeps once you’re level 7 (or higher w/ Max Moment of Courage) w/ Phase Boots + Quelling + Stout.
You’ve hit level 6, what now?
It’s time to get some bonus damage and start snowballing. Basically just organize a gank, Phase Boots have another advantage over Treads, the active will help you run up to someone and catch a duel w/o Blink.
Once you start getting duels, prov >
Blink? but what about Sha. Dota 2 lc jungle 6 867 5309
Don’t get Shadow Blade, unless you’re sub-2k MMR trencher McGee.
Blink initiation w/ Duel is amazing, and the 0 mana cost is awesome for being mobile in general. It’s much easier to get close, cast Press the Attack on yourself, blink and duel; than it is to do any setups with Lothar’s.
You could get a Shadow Blade in addition to a Blink Dagger. But don’t think Shadow Blade is a replacement. Blink + Shadow Blade would allow you to blink in and duel someone for an ez win + that all important permanent bonus damage and then invis away. But that’s still likely to get countered.
Blink rules, buy it, use it, love it.
I’m not doing enough damage!
There are a number of options open to LC to buff her damage up without busting the bank, in order to do enough damage to get duel kills. The best way, before I get started, is to get duel wins. Then you don’t need to buy a mid-game item, and can just focus on late game purchases and blowing up towers, which LC does very well once she has one big item.
HINT IT’S DESOLATOR
Anywho, Armlet isn’t a terrible option, but if you’re eating shots or worried about your toggling skills. May not be the best option. It’s amazing damage for the cost, and in the right hands is utterly destructive. However, it can bite you in the *** when RNGesus doesn’t come through on lifesteal procs. So it’s not entirely reliable, and that’s my opinion. Nonetheless, if you’re in need of a major damage output item early on, it’s hard to beat the Armlet.
Blade Mail is a fairly situational option. Blade Mail can really work wonders if they have hard right-click hitting heroes on the enemy team. It gives you bonus damage, never bad. Armor, which is something LC needs, and a bit of INT which will pretty much fix any mana troubles. It’s not generally going to do more damage than an Armlet, but you don’t lose health by using it, and against certain heroes it will do more damage, it’s also good vs teams with AoE damage like Tinker when you duel in a team-fight.
There are other options, but I feel they are generally inferior. Medallion gets a mention, even though I d >
Now what do I do?
Generally, Desolator -> AC or AC -> Desolator are LC’s best bets.
AC gives lots of Armor, which is very important to LC, negative armor to enemies which means more damage, and attack speed; which is super-duper.
Desolator gives you lots of damage and negative armor.
The real magic is when you get them together. Then your duels become a really scary thing to just about anyone unless they are ridiculously fat.
Desolator also lets LC push towers very fast, and if you get Deso with a Medallion of Courage, you can solo Roshan provided you don’t dis RNGesus and score 0 procs. Best bring a bud and just burn him down. Granted you’ll have a hard time if you haven’t landed any duel wins. If you’ve landed a lot, it’ll be ez pz.
I think that Deso->AC or AC-> Deso is best once you’ve gotten Phase, Blink, and maybe an Armlet/Blademail/Medallion (if needed/wanted). After that, Crit and Vlad’s become really attractive. Vlad’s stacks with Deso and gives armor, lifesteal, base HP and mana regen, and % damage bonus (which works really good w/ LC). Crit becomes really nasty when you’re getting Duel wins, because your crits will just grow bigger and bigger, and Moment of Courage can proc crits, a crit 80% lifesteal is basically full health.
Boots of Travel will need to be on the shopping list before you lose space for a TP, because that’s what smart people do. Keep themselves able to TP in/out.
Late Game Options
MKB will handle evasion like PA or Broodmother and many others. MKB also hits hard so, it’s a perfectly acceptable replacement for Chrysalis/Daedalus
Butterfly is a bit of an odd pick. But the attack speed, bit of armor, and evasion aren’t bad. I just don’t generally recommend it, but if you need evasion, it’s not bad. Although Halberd gives you an active + evasion.
Abyssal will help you shutdown people who are hard to duel like Lifestealer, Troll Warlord, Slark, and many others. Decent alternative for Crit in the right situation. Bashes hurt, although thankfully (for balance purposes) MoC doesn’t proc bash.
BKB is a big optional, and is honestly mid/late game. If you need a BKB, it’s pretty much necessary to be successful. But LC isn’t generally a BKB carry type hero, she doesn’t pop BKB and just blow up teams, mostly because she’s Melee. But if you’re getting CC’d/nuked/etc.. get a BKB.
Halberd is another way to deal with heavy right-clickers, just disarm then duel them. The bonus STR+Damage+Slow+Evasion don’t hurt either. It’s definitely a good pickup in the right spot.
Mjolnir is amazing with the 6.80 buff to it’s active. It turns any right clicks into creep wave clearing madness. LC is no exception. She’ll already eat waves quick already, add a Mjolnir and she blows up creeps like nobody’s business. It is another UAM but it honestly stacks because it only matters when lightning procs, so no worries there. Make sure you use the Active when you fight/duel, it’s REALLY REALLY GOOD YO.
General DiscussionProblem about LC jungle
Can u pls guys tell me, what should i do when i have lc jungle in my team ? because i lose every game when i have that shit in my team
Ban lc during the ban phase
if they have already picked that, and there’s no way around it, tell them to at least watch efficient lc jungle streams/vids because it can be done right, but unfortunately a fuckton of people end up jungling for more than 7 minutes like some fucking retards
Tell them to buy blink instead of SB and tell them to buy blademail.
you rush rapier and walk down mid. Lc jungle is honestly the cancer of dota
u say lc is cancer coz u nvr c a farming mira yet . go hill > midas > scepter . 20mins -1 teammate
idk ive had a jungle sniper before that went mom treads before
No one mentioning cliff farm qop? Fuck that trash.
block all camps, i did that one time best 800 gold spent.
@Hook and roll by wards?
you have a 48.5% winrate with a legion on your team(169 matches)
so no, you’re bullshitting
^and that is pretty much avg for the hero anyway
The reason people complain about LC jungle is that it’s usually a choice made without regard to team composition. LC jungle is shorthand for “person who picks a jungle core, farms jungle for 20 minutes, and doesn’t participate until the game is already decided (most likely in the other team’s favor because they played 5v4 and are snowballing out of control)”
^even if you jungle LC you should help out your safelane or mid depending on what camps you’re farming, also have an early TP for rotations and save up on mana, same thing with BS jungle, you need to be able to help if your teammates are getting dived, since they think your team has an immobile jungler
gazorpazorp dude nice games with bs you’ll get them next time with 3 lane creep skip with axe lane buddy
Lc jungle is only good if u go talon, blink without boots and kill mid.
Play around her
The better player adapts
The shit ones stagnates (first pick pudge ako na mid 2 tango pls then proceeds to feed and blames teammates)
Ruined a pudge mid who went naked starting into blink with no boots. Then team feeds.
You can ruin a pudge mid with any ganking hero with less resource than a 4th core like LC jungle
I’m sure I have ruined alot of mid’s life with bounty hunter xd
I have no fucking idea what you just said or what you were referring to.
lc jungle is quite good people just mentally give up whenever they see it and blame whatever shtitiness they have in their lanes on the jungler
A lot of the time LC jungle is just some idiot who doesn’t want to play support and rushes midas or SB or something retarded.
If you pick it in a game where your team is aware you are going to jungle and picks a support that can solo zone the offlane and lanes that don’t need help early on, the enemy team doesn’t have invis heroes or strong roamers and you roam out of the jungle as soon as you hit 6 and actually help your sidelanes and don’t do spastic itembuilds like midas or sb rush then it is a pretty decent pick I think.
LC jungle is good in the right hands
The thing is 90% of people who go jungle LC are dogshit players, and people give up easily when they see their LC goes to jungle because of it
LC jungle is good economically but the problem is most people playing that did it because they didn’t want to support or help the team or do any actually useful things so they end up farming for way longer than they should and stay useless for the entire game (early game farming, mid game catching up but too late, late game can’t even pick off).
Honestly even in 4k people who play LC jungle mostly suck. Except me (no kappa, I gank as soon as I get initiation item and not pick her when there are shit tons of heroes to fuck with my duels).
you cant get away with it every game, but the last game i played spirit breaker we had a jungle lc and the enemy had morph, i broke the linkens and he killed him in duel over and over.
jungle lc is not bad, its the people that play her every game in low brackets that are bad
U only lost with lc on your team like 50ish % why arent you talking about the times the lc actually made an impact and won you the game? It happen 50% as well. You heard of self fulfilling prophecy if you think the game is lost then the game will be lost. If you keep an open mind play your best you will win simple calculus ;p
The problem IS lc jungle. Not about.
? i like lc jungle on my team
it almost always guarantees me a solo offlane
the problem with lc jungle is that i play it
JUngle lc just needs to do what an lc in any other lane should do, get six and gank with duel as soon as you can. The problem comes when they just sit in the jungle and farm
^^ In most of the games you didn’t push enough. My assumption: you might have been thinking that LC is the initiator and fighter so she needs to keep fighting. It is not true because her job is to get duel damage and then make use of it, not always trying to look for pickoffs when there can be hardly any if enemy team starts to group up. This is when you want to split push while having your team to fight them instead.
Or it could be your item timing. With only Iron Talon and a set of tangoes Blink can be acquired usually by 6th min. Sure if you go Treads first it helps with the farming and ganks but it takes more time from your time having to endure the 4v5 situation.
Team composition could be another issue. Getting blink dagger, naked or not, will make you rely on your teammates to deal the damage during the duel. Maybe you ganked a lane where your teammates are AA, Shadow Demon or anything else that can’t provide you the nuke damage to kill your duel target.
LC Jungle is a matter of farm efficiency.. Most people here complain of a jungle LC with sb.. I mostly do a sb lc.. And I’ve got nearly 70 percent win rate this patch.. It’s one of my better cores.. One of the main reason I go lc jungle is coz.. The supports don’t know how to Zone the offlaners..n theres always a mid spamming invoker.. Who first picks invo.. N goes on to lose the lane. one of the biggest mistakes that most lc players make.. Is that if the opponents group up they don’t split push.. If you see almost all my lc games have nearly 10k tower damage.. The trick is.. Move around the map constantly tping on solo heroes n killing them.. That forces their carry into jungle.. Then watch the map.. If say 3 heroes are not.. Tp top.. Duel kill the carry n pressure lane.. They come back top.. Run away.. N rotate bot.. Rinse repeat until you have atleast 1 tier 2 down.. Then mid game as team fights happen.. Split as hard as you can with a desolater..get 1 set of megas. N just kill any solo hero who tps to Def. N push tier 4. their team tps back run away.. Until you get mega creeps.. Easy gg

